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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:15 AM (#1)

Bad to leave a Netbook Running 24/7 as a Server?


I recently dug out my old netbook computer, and decided to run a webserver, (and possibly some other servers like private IRC, file server etc. etc.) on there.

It's got an Intel Atom 1.66Ghz with 1GB RAM (will have 4-8GB when I get around to upgrading seeing as RAM is so cheap nodays (at least where I am) ).

In any case, is it bad to leave it running 24/7? I mean, it's not going to be USED 24/7, but will it ruin its life span in some way? I mean...having it on all the time. I am running Ubuntu on it, with GUI disabled (boots straight into text mode), will only basic services running (only uses 60MB RAM when its not doing anything).

So yeah, will it ruin or damage or risk exploding (:P) in some wya by leaving it just sitting on my shelf turned on, with the lid closed, connected to wifi, listening on various ports, doing pretty much nothing - 24/7?
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:57 AM (#2)

Of course there will be some long-term problems but nothing right away. Netbooks aren't designed to be on all the time. It might also depend on your network adapter, if it can handle all the port listening and connection managing.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:21 AM (#3)

Why don't you just turn it on when you need it? Some routers have wake-on-LAN support, meaning you can log in to the router remotely, and use it to power on a machine on the network. Not sure if the BIOS on a netbook would support wake on LAN though.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:31 AM (#4)

I've had a netbook running at home for at least a few years now with no issues (and it only uses ~13 watts, so it's that power hungry)

Provided you're sensible about where you keep it (e.g. not somewhere with poor cooling and the vents blocked) and it's not one of the laptops whose batteries tend to explode, the worst case scenario is that the laptop dies.

Leaving it on for a prolonged period of time could potentially even improve the life span compared to turning it off. For example, the internals of it won't suffer thermal stress due to heating/cooling as much as they would be if turned on a daily basis.

Also, 4-8GB RAM seems a bit ridiculous given what you want to be doing, are you sure you'll ever use it? I'm not sure mines ever hit the 2GB it has :P
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:57 AM (#5)

1GB is more than enough for a correctly configured server. I use half of that on my server, and I get a fair amount of traffic.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:26 AM (#6)

Take out the battery.
Lifespan is well like anything, it'll die eventually and probably better having it on that getting moldy in closet.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:44 AM (#7)

View PostSapporoGuy, on 30 April 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

Take out the battery.
Lifespan is well like anything, it'll die eventually and probably better having it on that getting moldy in closet.

This, but check that the netbook won't explode before you do.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:11 PM (#8)

Explode?
Hmm, not sure about notebooks/laptop batteries but I've smashed nicad, niso, and lipo batteries around and against walls doing about 60+km/hr (granted taped in) but never seen one explode! A guy today just split his lipo battery case in 2 today. Sure the cell swelled up but ... Nada!

Lipo batteries are extremely dangerous during charging! I put mine in a protective bag while charging ;) just to prevent a huge fire!

Lots of cool exploding lipo batteries on YouTube! Love the plane ones.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:22 PM (#9)

View PostSapporoGuy, on 30 April 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Explode?
Hmm, not sure about notebooks/laptop batteries but I've smashed nicad, niso, and lipo batteries around and against walls doing about 60+km/hr (granted taped in) but never seen one explode! A guy today just split his lipo battery case in 2 today. Sure the cell swelled up but ... Nada!

Lipo batteries are extremely dangerous during charging! I put mine in a protective bag while charging ;) just to prevent a huge fire!

Lots of cool exploding lipo batteries on YouTube! Love the plane ones.

I drive (I should say control) a yokomo BD5 wx chassis :) still 3 seconds behind the national champ :(

Smashing is completely different - it's perfectly safe to throw a brick of thermite about, but you don't want to set it on fire! xD
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 01:11 AM (#10)

Sort of like dynamite then :)
As long as you don't light the fuse you can do all kinds of crazy stuff with it.

Thermite is that aluminum and iron powder/filing stuff, right?

Love those videos too :)

Hehehehe, I do like things that go boom, however not coming from the back of your car ;) had that happen once! Boom, Ka-boom, slight acceleration (think rocket launch) and then a horizontal mushroom cloud! Holy crap Batman! Type of thing ... Stupid distributor blew :( funny as all hell afterwards :D

People looked at me funny seeing me staring at the engine with the back lid open ;)
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:57 AM (#11)

Just so you know most netbooks won't accept more than 2 gb. You may be able to insert it, but it may not get used....
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:08 AM (#12)

View PostJustinP, on 02 May 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:

Just so you know most netbooks won't accept more than 2 gb. You may be able to insert it, but it may not get used....


Yeah true. Will probably only get an extra GB anyway seeing as I can get it for like $10...
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:26 AM (#13)

View PostSapporoGuy, on 01 May 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

Sort of like dynamite then :)
As long as you don't light the fuse you can do all kinds of crazy stuff with it.


Nothing at all like dynamite. Dynamite sticks are nitroglycerin-based and very volatile, especially if they are over a couple of years old. You would be better off playing with a grenade, pin removed, rubber band restraining the release lever.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:51 AM (#14)

You grow up in post war Europe?
I heard that the kids back then had some crazy times messing with bunkers!

Hmmm, maybe I'm in the wrong line of work! I do like things that go boom, in a controlled manner!
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:23 PM (#15)

View PostSapporoGuy, on 04 May 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

You grow up in post war Europe?
I heard that the kids back then had some crazy times messing with bunkers!


Since 19th century, dynamite has not really been used by the military, too unstable. I think you are mixing up dynamite with other types of explosives (TNT, RDX, PETN, etc), as I said, dynamite is a Nitroglycerin based explosives.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:32 PM (#16)

Quite a lot of explosives can be burnt quite safely :-)
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:55 PM (#17)

View Postcallumacrae, on 04 May 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Quite a lot of explosives can be burnt quite safely :-)


Yup, but dynamite isn't one of them :P
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 04:09 AM (#18)

Maybe, my father made a mistake in translation. He's not a native English speaker :)

He and a couple of friends played with left over ordinances in West Germany.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:37 AM (#19)

Update: said netbook is (after switch to Debian - see my other thread), running at 54°C constantly. Should that be ok?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:21 AM (#20)

Might make the parts wear out quicker (as they're not designed for continuous operation), and the cost of electricity for running a computer 24/7 would probably cost more than just getting a VPS :P

(having said that, netbooks are pretty low power, so the electricity cost might not be as bad. How many input watts is the power adapter rated for?)
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