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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:31 PM (#1)

WTF! Decided to give Chromium a try, and came across this ....


... warning about extensions you install, specifically the "Caution" under the "Your data on all websites" heading.

At first I thought no big deal because what extension would really need this access to be functional. Then I started looking for extensions, to replicate some functions I've become accustomed to on Safari, and found that nearly all of them warn that they require this much access. Now that seems to be one helluva lot of trust you're giving to some unknown developer - especially since there doesn't seem to be a way to tell if an extension is transmitting info back to some site ....

And on a side note, what is it with the huge url/search box AND no ability to add toolbar icons (except of course with extensions, but ....).
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:48 PM (#2)

That's why I check the ratings. Never had a problem though. I just use AdBlock and Screen Capture and JSON view and Auto HD for YouTube and Stop Autoplay for YouTube and YouTube thumbs.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:05 AM (#3)

You should check out GlimmerBlocker, instead of AdBlock, plus Ghostery.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:34 AM (#4)

GlimmerBlocker runs on Java o.O whaaa?
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:37 PM (#5)

Is that a good or bad thing?
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:51 PM (#6)

Bad, a lot of overhead for something so simple. AdBlock just injects a JavaScript that either prevents ads from loading by deleteing their node or blocking the request, or sets
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 03:46 PM (#7)

Hmm, I'll have to rethink this now. I only resorted to using it because the AdBlock extension for Safari didn't work that well at the time, but maybe it has improved.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:05 PM (#8)

Ah you're using Safari? I use Chrome since it syncs with my PC. Though I might use Safari since it will sync with my iPod and iPad. But Safari extensions aren't too nice also I <3 control + shift + n.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:34 PM (#9)

View PostThatRailsGuy, on 16 March 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Ah you're using Safari? I use Chrome since it syncs with my PC. Though I might use Safari since it will sync with my iPod and iPad. But Safari extensions aren't too nice also I <3 control + shift + n.


Safari extensions aren't too bad now. I've made a few for personal uses (like my URL shortener), and they're essentially the same as Chrome's.

To the OP, although Chrome is improving, there's little an extension can do without requesting all that data. Google didn't give developers many lesser options, so most people had to use that one for their extensions.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:32 PM (#10)

View PostThatRailsGuy, on 16 March 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Ah you're using Safari? I use Chrome since it syncs with my PC. Though I might use Safari since it will sync with my iPod and iPad. But Safari extensions aren't too nice also I <3 control + shift + n.


When I started getting back into computers it was because I bought a Mac, so Safari was the first browser I got used to using. Then I moved to Firefox, then back to Safari. I then decided to install OSX (10.6.8) on an old PC machine I had, and have been using that a lot lately but Safari tends to crash on it every once in a while, so I figured I'd give Chromium a try ... may even try Google Chrome but not sure what the differences are?

View PostMack, on 16 March 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

To the OP, although Chrome is improving, there's little an extension can do without requesting all that data. Google didn't give developers many lesser options, so most people had to use that one for their extensions.


Ah, I see, thanks for that info. If there so called "Chrome Web Store" didn't have so many junk extensions I wouldn't have been as concerned :D
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:52 PM (#11)

Updated to the latest Safari and my crashes seem to have disappeared, so I'm going back to it :) It seems to load faster than Chromium too.

The only thing missing in Safari is better bookmark management. I miss the way FireFox, and Chromium, manage new bookmarks and display existing ones with the "list" star, plus Safari must have the worst way of displaying your folder option - it list the WHOLE F'n folder structure whenever you want to add on :( , why they never fixed this, I'll never understand. I think if they'd only add that feature, there really wouldn't be anything else I would need in a browser (probably never have to update again, unless there was some fantastic HTML/CSS breakthrough :lol: ).
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:24 PM (#12)

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Updated to the latest Safari and my crashes seem to have disappeared, so I'm going back to it It seems to load faster than Chromium too.

I'm sure bits of it would be running in the OS, much like Internet Explorer on Windows :P
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 03:55 PM (#13)

May I ask why you are using Chromium? The stable Google Chrome build might help out with the crashes/speed.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:06 PM (#14)

View PostQasim, on 18 March 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

May I ask why you are using Chromium? The stable Google Chrome build might help out with the crashes/speed.


Not using it anymore, Safari now meets all my needs. And it was the old Safari that was crashing, not Chromium, plus Chrome has no noticeable speed advantages over it, or even Safari for that matter.

I'm happy now, no need to play with other browsers, except when testing designs :)
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:21 PM (#15)

EDIT: nevermind misread the post
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:01 PM (#16)

I only have AdBlock and use Chrome, although I did like Safari and unlike Chrome, Safari saved to Program Files whereas Chrome is saved in temporary files (not by choice either, it's how Google wanted to install it) :|
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:05 PM (#17)

View PostCocoa, on 19 March 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

I only have AdBlock and use Chrome, although I did like Safari and unlike Chrome, Safari saved to Program Files whereas Chrome is saved in temporary files (not by choice either, it's how Google wanted to install it) :|

Hehe, yeah that is annoying.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:32 PM (#18)

View PostCocoa, on 19 March 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

Safari saved to Program Files whereas Chrome is saved in temporary files


Ah, you're using Safari for Windows. I tried it once years ago when I still had a Windows machine, but didn't like it at all. Safari on a Mac is way different than the Win version. Or at least it was, Apple seems to be treating Windows users with more respect now than how they treat OSX users.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:19 PM (#19)

Chrome installs into your AppData directory instead of Program Files. This is so users without admin permissions can install it. Kinda weird though :P
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:34 PM (#20)

View PostDaniel15, on 20 March 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

Chrome installs into your AppData directory instead of Program Files. This is so users without admin permissions can install it. Kinda weird though :P


I know, it confused me a lot! I was trying to make a Chrome theme (turned out alright but not great) but took me ages to actually find the default theme for an example because it was so well hidden. It simply makes more sense to save to Program Files as default, it's where everything else goes... :P
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