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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:15 AM (#1)

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Is adobe dream weaver still suitable for html/css coding (I won't be using it for WYSIWYG)? Cause I am tired of looking at boring old notepad.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 04:32 AM (#2)

You could also go for Notepad++ which also gives you syntax highlighting if that is what you're looking for.
In Dreamweaver you'll have a preview and a ftp client built in which is pretty nice you also have syntax highlighting.
As long as you write the code yourself and don't use WYSIWYG it doesn't matter to much which IDE you use. Just take the one that you like the most and has the perks you like to have.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:46 AM (#3)

macromedia Dreamweaver ???? Like nahhh, not on my life nor yours :lol:

You could try the other bought and dropped app, CyberStudio B)

I use BBEdit but I'm on a mac ... stick to the text based editors! I still don't auto-complete ... shit gets in my way and doesn't always suggest the right autocomplete when I expect it too!

Besides, you won't have to clean up your code later after it has been helpfully suggestedly reformatted and all that other crap that you'd wouldn't imagine putting in yourself :blink:
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:40 PM (#4)

I don't agree with Sapporo. IDE's can be extremely helpful over plaintext editors.

Go for something like Netbeans, or Eclipse. Or Komodo.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:00 PM (#5)

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING DREAMWEAVER

I made that super big so everyone and their mom can read it. Dreamweaver is a powerful, full featured IDE that is used widely by developers.

WITH THAT BEING SAID... I don't suggest using it. Dreamweaver is very bloated with features that you will probably never use. It puts focus on its WYSIWYG editor which we all know is horrid, so be sure to stay away from it. It does have some good project management tools, but there are many other IDEs who offer it with a more simple interface.

If you are looking for something with basic syntax highlighting, don't go with DW. Notepad++ is an amazing windows IDE that supports syntax highlighting. If you are on Mac, I'd suggest Espresso or Coda. But if you are thinking of upgrading from regular Notepad, don't step near DW.

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macromedia Dreamweaver ????


No, Adobe Dreamweaver... http://www.adobe.com...macromedia.html
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:44 PM (#6)

View PostZerewaka, on 02 February 2012 - 03:15 AM, said:

Is adobe dream weaver still suitable for html/css coding (I won't be using it for WYSIWYG)? Cause I am tired of looking at boring old notepad.

While dreamweaver is fine for coding, I would strongly recommend using something use (Notepad++, or one of the ones suggested above).

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:09 PM (#7)

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IDE's can be extremely helpful over plaintext editors.

What would a HTML IDE even do? IDEs are generally used for debugging and build automation. You can't really "debug" a HTML file :P

I can understand their usefulness for programming languages, but for HTML? You don't really need anything fancy.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:59 PM (#8)

View PostDaniel15, on 02 February 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

What would a HTML IDE even do? IDEs are generally used for debugging and build automation. You can't really "debug" a HTML file :P

I can understand their usefulness for programming languages, but for HTML? You don't really need anything fancy.


Syntax highlighting, tag autocompletion, code snippets....

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:00 AM (#9)

View Postarronhunt, on 02 February 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

Syntax highlighting, tag autocompletion, code snippets....

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If you get a good IDE you can have things like FTP, Version Control, etc all included too. They generally provide a more integrated experience.

As Aaron said, the main criticisms I'd have of Dreamweaver is that it is bloated (though you might not be using the wysiwyg features, they're still kicking around in the application making it bigger on disk and in memory, which in short means it'll probably be a little more sluggish), and the fact that you have to pay for it. There's plenty of good, lightweight, free alternatives.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 01:55 AM (#10)

I can get DW for practically free since im a student at intermediate. I've got Crimson editor, will notepad ++ be much of an improvement?
Proabably getting DW cause it looks nice and fancy, will encourage me to pratice HTML as we don't learn it at our school till we are 15 and will make people who say that point and click editors are for professionals and notepad for noobs go away.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:48 AM (#11)

Notepad is awesome. Plain text editing.

I use TextMate which is a Mac only application, but there is an open-source "counter-part" that runs in JRE called RedCar http://redcareditor.com/
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:46 PM (#12)

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I've got Crimson editor, will notepad ++ be much of an improvement?

They're pretty much the same :)

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I use TextMate which is a Mac only application, but there is an open-source "counter-part" that runs in JRE called RedCar http://redcareditor.com/

Probably the closest to TextPad for Windows is e. Sublime Text is pretty nice too.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:47 PM (#13)

ultra edit http://www.ultraedit.com/ is a pretty good allrounder and is available for mac and windows
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:10 PM (#14)

View PostAlanG, on 23 February 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

ultra edit http://www.ultraedit.com/ is a pretty good allrounder and is available for mac and windows


Looks to be even more bloated than Dreamweaver...cheaper though!
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:57 AM (#15)

Macromedia Dreamweaver was a joke ;)
Adobe bought out good products and made them ... meh
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 08:54 AM (#16)

View PostSapporoGuy, on 18 April 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

Macromedia Dreamweaver was a joke ;)
Adobe bought out good products and made them ... meh



Uh... Gravedig much?
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:02 PM (#17)

Viewpoint and timeline is different for those of us who used black and white TVs and cassette tapes before floppies ;)

Yeah, they really were floppy :)
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:09 PM (#18)

View PostSapporoGuy, on 18 April 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Viewpoint and timeline is different for those of us who used black and white TVs and cassette tapes before floppies ;)

Yeah, they really were floppy :)

This isn't facebook, there is no timeline.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:16 AM (#19)

Wasn't that a movie Tom Cruise was in ?
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